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areen18 · Groupie Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 268 Location: KL

Happy Early Birthday Sarawak.. Happy independence day... Very Happy

"Sarawak did not join Malaysia. Sarawak FORMED Malaysia alongside Sabah, Singapore and Tanah Melayu on 16 Sept. Sarawakians never really appreciate 31 August 1957 as an Independence Day. What they really appreciate is Malaysia Day 16 Sept. That should be the National Day to be celebrated by all Malaysians.
Anyway. Happy birthday Sarawak. Agi Idup Agi Ngelaban."-
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I missed the regattta.... and the celebration.. ARRHGG... there wil be next year... Cool

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mar · Fanatic Joined: 23 Apr 2008 Posts: 233 Location: Brunei

Hey..Regatta not yet lah...happening 1st-3rd Aug if not mistaken!!! But I guess ur back in KL dy huh? Twisted Evil

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sweetmag · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:21 am Post subject:

I agree that somehow the true national day should be on the 16th of Sept as both Sabah and Sarawak joined Malaysia on that day in 1963... but 31st of August is to symbolise Malaysia's freedom from any foreign power... Confused

so that's cool Wink

the thought that Sarawak actually has its own Independence day is a little weird for me... cuz ultimately we are one nation and to have individual independence day for the state is like it doesn't belong to malaysia? my opinion... its quite awkward really Confused

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Brother in Law · Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject:

I have read a shed load of books on the subject of Mayalsia, the Emergenacy, Independence and more. These are from all viewpoints not just a 'British' view.

To avoid being a communist country action was taken. The decision was taken by all states and due to the Borneo Conflict needed to be a consolidated front. The initial grouping and the subsequent regroupings have allowed Malaysia to get to where it is now. The alternation of Sultans as Head of State also endeavours to maintain the status quo.

If the Malay states had not stood firm and shoulder to shoulder your lives would undoubtedly be a lot different now. Invasion by the Japanese when the British were impotent and ineffectual, the Emergency when communism was the main aim and the Borneo conflcit when Indonesia tried to take control were all ridden out and over to the crdit of the current Malaysia. Singapores exit from the group was inevitable as was that of Brunie becuase of economic and positional reasons.

Breaking away now I believe, and this is a personal view, would be suicidal to individual states and would weaken the exisiting Malaysia as it stands, a lose lose situation. The manner in which Malaysia has developed means that you are all reliant on each other, like the body, chopping off a limb makes you less effective and functional.

By all means celebrate the occasion of independence but seriously think about true independence if you state broke away from the whole and the effect.
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areen18 · Groupie Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 268 Location: KL

yes mar i am back in KL.. sob sob..
Crying or Very sad

anyhow.. well Sarawak has always been celebrating such independence day during the formation of Malaysia as it is a real big thing to them from the sacrifices and the also the killings happens before the formation.. Indonesia, TM and Brunei Tug-of-war...

again i am just proud to be one.. you gotta go there to experience the differences...

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sweetmag · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 1:01 am Post subject:

in a way I understand yet I am confused... Rolling Eyes

but its ok... I think Marty has a very good point Wink

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Brother in Law · Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:13 pm Post subject:

.. I think I get the guist... in the UK we have Scotland, Wales, England... each has a National Day of their own... Soctland St Andrew's, Wales St David and England St George's... so I suppose this is the same...
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sweetmag · Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:43 am Post subject:

but arent they all individual countries too? Confused

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Brother in Law · Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:25 am Post subject:

... supposedly.. but all under one rule... Rolling Eyes

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sweetmag · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject:

but in a way, its still fair lah Wink

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Brother in Law · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject:

... all things are fair in love and war.... Rolling Eyes

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sweetmag · Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject:

well said Mr. Edwards Wink

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zulPutrajaya · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:56 am Post subject:

is it true...under olympic... Wales, scots and other will join the UK (hence the united kingdom) flag but they will be in their own flag for other games (Hence the britain flag)...hmmm i am confuse lol
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sweetmag · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 10:27 am Post subject:

hahahaa

take a seat dear Twisted Evil

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Brother in Law · Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject:

The United Kingdom is the conglomeration of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. This used to be referred to as Great Bitain and Northern Ireland. We compete at the Olympics as a combined nation, governed by one pariliament. When it comes to the Commonwealth Games then the individual countries compete. You ought to try living under that rule.

We have individual football teams by country, but when it comes to cricket Engand comprises Engand and Wales, in rugby union we play as individual countries although Northern Ireland joins with Southern Ireland (Eire) for that. All the various countries have regional parliaments except England. Cornwall wants independence from England. THe various Islands around the UK have different statuses.

You try living here and not be confused Exclamation

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zulPutrajaya · Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 8:39 am Post subject:

OMG...... imagine teaching that to your kids... LOL

so if we are counting how many nation there is... the number will flacuate depending on under which jurisdiction it falls into... Under UN it will be less coz all under Great Brits are count as one but under commonwealth in increases by 5?

now i am feeling not smarter than 5th grader LOL
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mar · Fanatic Joined: 23 Apr 2008 Posts: 233 Location: Brunei

Wow...that's very confusing indeed Marty... Shocked

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Brother in Law · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 5:46 am Post subject:

...you try living here Laughing

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sweetmag · Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 10:31 am Post subject:

u mean u were smarter than a 5th grader Zul? cuz I sure as well wasn't... based on the tv show lah Rolling Eyes

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